Well these trainers are very very good when you look at the price, I don't know whether I could ever see them as trainers or running shoes but certainly for indoor shoes they are absolutely ideal. I'm normally a size 10 1/2 so I chose a size 11 and if I were honest they are a little bit too big for me but I'm sticking with them. If I was re-ordering them today I would probably go for the tens and I think that they would be plenty roomy enough for me